The Fix: a confusing name??
John
February 25, 2008 at 09:45 AM posted in General DiscussionPremium subscribers have access to "The Fix," an audio file that pushes you to practice the new vocbulary from the lesson. It's not mindless listen-and-repeat, though. You hear the English first, and then you're supposed to say the corresponding Chinese word. After a brief pause, you hear the correct translation in Chinese, which either confirms your answer or gives you the right answer.
Lots of users have raved about this feature, but we do get one complaint over and over again: before you try it out, you have no idea what it is. The name gives you no clue as to what it is or what it's for. Many users have requested that we change the name, and we are now ready to do just that.
What name would you use? We're leaning toward something simple, like Audio Review. It's not very punchy, but at least it's clear. We would like to avoid the word "drill" because you're not just listening and repeating, and "drill" seems to imply very little brainpower is involved (mental translation is work!).
Please let us know what names you would prefer! We're listening...
man2toe
June 13, 2008 at 10:52 PM
And what happened to the community based Dictionary? Searched fountain today to see if I could say 水泉 or if I should use 噴泉 but fountain is not in the glossary.
man2toe
June 08, 2008 at 02:05 PM
I kinda like the double meaning that can come from the word - fix.
Fix your vocab and get a fix of vocab so, how about
The Vocab Fix
Vocab Fix
The Cpod Fix (The Spanish Fix- The French Fix etc.)
Cpod's Fix It
or the mental workout idea has some legs,
The Vocab Gym
Workout the Vocab
Or how about just straight forward-
Learn It
Cpod's Learn It Spod's Learn It Fpod's Learn It
chrisdo99
June 08, 2008 at 03:18 AM
This sounds like a very very useful feature. How do I access it?
Also, how do I rate a lesson? In case you can't tell, I'm new to Chinesepod. But I love it!
Christine
pchenery
March 28, 2008 at 07:25 PM
As a follow up to my post, the "Fix" is more than just a review of the vocab.
I see it as an interactive tool where I can both review the vocab, practice the pronunciation and "test myself" by listening to the English example sentence and then trying to formulate the Mandarin translation in my head (during the extended pause).
Just my 2 cents...I'm sure other learners have their own methods.
pchenery
March 28, 2008 at 06:40 PM
I like the "Fix" name.
But if you are looking for an alternative, perhaps "Test Yourself" would be more meaningful.
rich
March 28, 2008 at 06:32 PM
I vote for it being a name in Chinese, even if it just meant "vocab review" (in pinyin of course)... having something in Chinese makes people feel like they are doing something chinese-ish. Yes, new people might not know what that means, but it could be noted somewhere about the fix. I have to agree that "The Fix" makes it quite interesting, and anything else quite boring-sounding. Just today I was joking that I needed a fix, uh, not of drugs, but just chocolate or something, and right away I thought of ChinesePod and how I never do the Fix any more. Truly, I think a catch phrase, even if it doesn't hit the meaning right on, is more important even if it gets some complains. (I'm like a month over due on writing this comment, but just found this discussion for the first time)
shungli
March 23, 2008 at 07:38 PM
if your in need of such a name changing adventure why not do something daring and change the letters around
"teh fix" that would surprise them all. The Fix sounds great though, it's like sorry man I can't hang out right now I need to get my fix bro^^ ugghh.. I just need my fix so bad right now^^ ......no need to change!
laorui
February 26, 2008 at 09:32 PM
The Fix is used to make the vocab stick.
Why not call it the glue? Vocab Glue
Julesong
February 26, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Someone suggested something like "Vocab Coach" up above, and I think the connotation of "coaching" to go along with what the file actually does is a very good one.
Julesong
February 26, 2008 at 09:00 PM
What I know is that, without a Premium account, I always assumed "The Fix" was a supplementary file that "fixed" or explained a broken podcast mp3 or PDF.
harregarre
February 26, 2008 at 08:28 PM
@frank: The Fix however is not some new word they came up with too, as opposed to Big Mac and Slurpee. If they had called it "Shindizzle" I would've been with you, though.
Anyway what about:
"The vocabulary review or: How I learned to stop worrying and love Mandarin."
Hehehe.
RJ
February 26, 2008 at 07:12 PM
I think Frank has a point. And who cares - its there now - leave it.
frank
February 26, 2008 at 05:34 PM
With all due respect to the great minds at CPod, I think you guys are seriously over-thinking this. The Fix is a great, brandable name. So what if nobody knows what it is before they listen to it? That's what the 7-Day Free Trial is for! Explain it in your marketing materials, talk about it on the site, but don't change the name.
I mean... nobody knew what a Big Mac or a Slurpee was until somebody told them, but now they're branded to the companies that created them. Just something to keep in mind!
azerdocmom
February 26, 2008 at 05:19 PM
Keep it simple, ladies and gents----
VOCAB TUTORIAL
Ahhhh, that sounds juuuusssst perfect (to me)!
calkins
February 26, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Why does it need to be a fancy word or phrase? Keep it clear and simple, and why not have some continuity with the "lesson downloads" and the "lesson tabs"?
As it is now, you have "Dialogue MP3" and "Dialogue", "The Fix MP3" and "Vocabulary".
Wouldn't it makes sense to just change "The Fix MP3" to "Vocabulary MP3"? That way the audio download name matches the lesson tab name, and there's no confusion to newbies as to what the MP3 is. It's the vocabulary!
ratatouille
February 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM
OK then firstly what was wrong with "The Fix".
Well, it suggested something was broken, like the main podcast and you had the download the Fix to get it to work properly
Also the Fix has a narcotic connotation ranging from acceptable caffeine to more illicit varieties.
So what to replace it with? Well the Fix had a snappiness to it suggested something quick , grab and go.
So....I would suggest The Blast. It rhymes with Podcast, heck you could even coin a new industry word, PodBlast.
Also The Blast has an audio meaning:
"I was cruisng in my car and the stereo was blasting my favourite lessons"
The Fun meaning:
"That lesson was a blast"
The "Grab and go" meaning
"I just blasted through, I was in a hurry"
Short and snappy meaning
"Give us a blast of the lesson, I don't want the whole thing"
What do ya think?
wei1xiao4
February 26, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Has someone already suggested 复核 fu4xi2 review? It goes with qing wen.
John
February 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Speaking of cognition, we actually have ideas for how to bring more cognition into the "Fix-like" auditory experience. Dave Lancashire is working on it already. That's for another day, though... :)
xiaohu
February 26, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Free associate...free associate...free associate
Vocab Stretch
Stretch out
The Mastery
The Lab
Expound
e-view
i-view
Reinforce
enhance
Mobilize
I-mobilization
Refine
Define
Apply
The Application
Retrieve
Think Tank
How about something John challenged me to in a recent post...
-Cognitive learning-
What about
"The Cognition" (or would people understand what that means?)
It's like the answer is right in front of me and I can't just reach out and grasp it...annoying...
(Forgive the scatillogical nature of this post)
phil
February 26, 2008 at 08:08 AM
According to my iTunes downloads the name was already changed from "The fix" to "Lesson review" between lessons 704 and 705 around 29th Nov 07? Lesson review seems clear enough to me.
ratatouille
February 26, 2008 at 08:02 AM
It is what it is and can't be dressed up too much. Yes there is an element of listen & repeat and that looks like rote learning.
Can't call it "sonic massage" while the other files are listed plainly as Podcast otherwise Newbies will skip the main course and go straight to dessert!
That's why I'd favour Dialogue Coach or Dialogue Review because it is as minimal as the Dialogue file positioned above it but with a layer of coaching or review for deeper learning.
"Deeper Learning"
"Higher Learning"
"The Habit"
"Interact!"
"Good2Great"
"Soapbox"
John
February 26, 2008 at 07:31 AMDave, Refer to the original post: It's not mindless listen-and-repeat, though. You hear the English first, and then you're supposed to say the corresponding Chinese word. After a brief pause, you hear the correct translation in Chinese, which either confirms your answer or gives you the right answer. In Ken's words, it's actually "generative review," because if you really do the exercise, you're forced to do the translations from your mother tongue into the target language.
dave
February 26, 2008 at 06:39 AM
What is it about John? Give me the deeper meaning! I yearn to understand...
John
February 26, 2008 at 06:25 AM
"Echo" sounds like "listen and repeat," though, which is not what it's about.
jpvillanueva
February 26, 2008 at 02:48 AM
I like ratatouille's idea of "echo." It's got 'audio' and 'repeat' built in.
The Echo Mix
The Echo Pod
The Echo Cast
Echo Review
Echo Logic
Echo-tron
Echo-phiia
Echo-saurus
xiaohu
February 26, 2008 at 02:22 AM
Hmmm...
Personal Tutor?
Counselor?
Private Tutor?
Personal Trainer?
Private Coach?
Use What You Learned?
(Dave's line, "Use these words in context")
The Context?
The Practice?
The Tutor?
Memorize?
Nmonic?
i-Tutor?
i-Coach?
i-Trainer?
Tutor-pod?
Tutor-cast?
I like the idea of peronalizing it, since it's the next best thing to working with a private tutor, in essence the fix is an e-tutor!
fordbronco
February 26, 2008 at 01:38 AM
Not sure if anyone else said this, but how about Lesson Review. Another term I could see improvement on is Conversations, which for a language learning website could mean a whole other thing.
weiaisi
February 25, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Actually, "Dialogue Coach" or "Vocabulary Coach" sounds pretty good.
ratatouille
February 25, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Dialogue coach
...it follows naturally from the Dialogue positioned above it.
AuntySue
February 25, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Yes, the word "audio" is quite redundant.
Also, the fix is not much use for quiet listening, it only works at its best when you're talking, which makes it different.
More brainstorming
vocab challenge
vocab check
challenge
speak up
say it
voice workout
voice trainer
(the) repeater
noisy pod
don't-try-this-on-the-bus
We must be careful not to use localised English, though. For example, to me an "oral workout" would be something unspeakable to do with the number 69, and while "vocab dump" would have only positive connotations here I'm sure it wouldn't sound so pretty in some countries.
ratatouille
February 25, 2008 at 05:33 PM
The "audio" in "audio review" is redundant and there is will be a .MP3 file right next to it as opposed to PDF.
So this second word should be used to indicate that this is a stripped down, bare-bones podcast that supports the main lesson. So what word would that be - "core" perhaps? "Core review" or "Script review" or "Text review" or "Text step-through"
henning
February 25, 2008 at 04:38 PM
sorry, "not too narrow, not too wide"
Please make those comments editable.
henning
February 25, 2008 at 04:36 PM
John,
don't listen to the voices.
"Audio Review" is perfect because that's exactly what it is.
The name is not to narrow and not to wide and the "boringness" that JP complained about translates to "clarity" for me.
Exactly like the new "boring" exercise menu which is so much more straight-foreward, efficient, and user-friendly now .
calkins
February 25, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Sweet and simple, just like John says at the beginning of each Fix:
"The Vocab"
ratatouille
February 25, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Echo
tutorial
Learning aid
ping pong
More learning
the jog
Finessing
After Class
Post lesson review
Test Drive
Afterwords
ratatouille
February 25, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Since this is a brainstorm anything goes right?
deKenandJennyfied/DeJohnandJennyfied
the Kernel (it's what's in the pod)
earplough ( hey, if earworm works, why not!)
Zen (the mellow tones in the Fix are so soothing, like NPR)
After show party (well it is just after the Oscars!)
Take-away (eh, not the fish and chips variety!)
Repeat After Me
Listen&Repeat
A Different Take
One on one
Compactor
Lingo Lasso
RJ
February 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM
How about a chinese name such as
回顾 hui2 gu4 (review)
or 请回顾 qing3 hui2 gu4 - as in please review. Perhaps Connie has a better one but Chinese is appropriate and instructional.
Just a thought.
-RJ
John
February 25, 2008 at 12:05 PMJP, Maybe the subtitle could be different for every single one (hey, it worked for Futurama!).
jpvillanueva
February 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Audio Express
All Together Now
Say It!
Speak Up!
Lesson Remix
Your Turn!
Maybe "the Fix" just needs a subtitle. "Audio Review" is accurate, but it makes me sleepy. Sleepy, I say!
ratatouille
February 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM
the skinny
lesson-lite
wash-rinse-repeat
CD - Chinese distilled
Lab -Little audio bits
RPM- Reduced Performance for Memory
Espresso - a Cpod rush
The Sticker
Supporting Patterns
Chopped to Stick
vikram
February 25, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I initially thought it was the file to download if there were chipmunks on the main podcast. Change of name would be a good idea. call it the 'lesson vocab drill' or something like that
John
February 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM
AZERDocMom,
That sounds like the file you download when you hear chipmunks in the regular podcast MP3 file... :P
John
February 25, 2008 at 09:59 AM
AuntySue,
Adding too many words makes the name too long. I understand that "the Fix" is more fun, but it really means nothing to new users, and that's a problem...
AuntySue
February 25, 2008 at 09:57 AM
and "audio review" sounds a bit like the dialogue-only mp3 to me, because that's how I use them.
AuntySue
February 25, 2008 at 09:55 AM
I'd like to keep calling it the fix, whether that's its new name or not. When I talk to myself about "doing the fix", it feels good, makes me want to do it. I'd never feel the same about "audio review", yuk, work, boring.
How about this. Perhaps the name "the fix" could be lengthened to include some descriptive words, which we could then choose to omit?
dave
February 25, 2008 at 09:53 AM
A name change is a good idea. I can't imagine anyone really loving 'the fix' title but stranger things have happened. Audio Review sounds good to me. Anything that simply states exactly what it is works for me.
mfalkoff
July 23, 2008 at 03:51 PMVocabulary Review