Website Update Problem
Alex@ChinesePod
March 04, 2014 at 03:28 AM posted in General DiscussionHey Poddies! I'm sure you've all seen the new website design by now. Some of you have posted that you like the way it looks, but a number of you have had some problems. We appreciate it when you let us know about any issues with our site so we can improve our system.
We are making adjustments to the new site and bug fixing at the moment. However, a number of your complaints/issues could be solved very easily on your end by clearing the cache on your web browser. Especially if exercises, audio, or tabs are not working PLEASE clear the cache, log out of your account and log back in. This should resolve the most basic errors. If you have any continued problems, please feel free to post here, or contact us at support@chinesepod.com. Thanks again everyone.
-ChinesePod Support Staff
dziner
March 28, 2014 at 06:29 PM
Am confused about recent changes to the android app. Before, lesson lists appeared neatly down the screen, with accompanying image thumbs. Now each lesson in the list appears in a glaring red box with white text and no thumb. (Wearing sun glasses did not work)
Another issue is there doesnt appear to be any way in the new app to sort the lessons by channel e.g. I previously chose to list intermediate only and did this from within the app.
Personally, the app is now unusable for me and 90% of my Chinesepod usage is through the app. Is this format and layout going to persist?
Thanks
Alex@ChinesePod
March 17, 2014 at 07:53 AM
Dear Users,
These suggestions should be available now.
You also now have the ability to edit comments, but only for the first 24 hours after posting a comment.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Best regards,
-Alex
geleise
March 16, 2014 at 05:10 AM
Hi there,
Thanks for the good work you do. I have occasionally been frustrated by the website but overall it's been fairly stable.
I have three general comments, (or complaints, if you prefer):
1) It seems to me that the servers are not always able to handle the load; sometimes the flash podcast player "freezes" a few seconds into the podcast and I have to reload the page. This has happened both in Boston, MA and Pattaya, Thailand.
2) Perhaps related to #1, I am not sure if the site is well supported in different geographical locations. The nature of this kind of site is it should probably be pretty international, right? I wonder how many servers are mirroring the content worldwide. In otherwords, some times when the site is slow and unresponsive (which does happen somewhat), I also wonder if I'm just not near a content server.
3) Finally, a small complaint: but for me, the new CSS on the lesson pages used to create two columns, a narrow left-hand-column for the podcast and some general topical information, and a wider right-hand column with tabs for comments, vocabulary, dialogue and whatnot. Since the update, right-hand column often is positioned below the left-hand column instead of to its right, especially if the browser window is not full size. This might be from some sort of switch to relative CSS positioning, but I prefer to see the two columns regardless of my browser window size. (Clarity update: in other words, if my browser window is too small, sometimes I see everything in one long column rather than two columns)
Phew!
james137
March 15, 2014 at 06:02 AM
Can you sort out the export of flashcard to anki now. I posted about it before but there was no response from you. Like i said before anki only shows the 2/3 pieces of information on the card. so for example the front of the card will have the chinese character, and the back would have the chinese pinyin OR the english translation. but not both. We need both on the back, the english translation and the pinyin. Your developer can fix this by merging the 2nd and 3rd column of information on the export. Can you please fix this so we can use anki properly.
james137
March 17, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Ahh thanks Chris! I was using an old version of Anki...the early stages of 2.0. I just imported information for a new deck and it works. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my concern. Maybe you should get a job at chinesepod。。。at least then someone will reply to my comments!
christopherhapka
March 17, 2014 at 01:36 PM
James, you can customize what is shown on the back of an Anki card using the "Manage Note Types" option in the Anki desktop app. ChinesePod is doing exactly what they should be doing: putting each value into its own column, to give users the most flexibility. You can then use Anki to assign the information to the front and back of cards.
ChinesePod, please do not merge the "pinyin" and "definitions" fields!
cinnamonfern
March 14, 2014 at 12:07 PM
For everyone who uses Skritter and imports vocab lists directly from Chinesepod. It looks like they just got the login working again!
benyu198
March 13, 2014 at 03:48 PM
None of the culture shows or videos are accessible by list format. There is no dropdown option in the lists area, it only lists academic levels. If you actually try to manually search for a culture show like "Dear Amber" or "Qing Wen" in Search, not all episoedes will be shown. Even better, they will be in random order instead of by published date.
Which brings up another issue, none of the lists are able to be sorted by publication date anymore or any other method.
Oh and none of the video links will play anymore at least not on firefox. When I click home it takes me to course instead of self-study even the settings are set for self-study.
Actually, maybe it's easier to start listing things that weren't broken by the latest update?
Right-Wingnut
March 08, 2014 at 07:33 AM
Not related to the site update - but how about posting the 2013 rankings.
cinnamonfern
March 08, 2014 at 12:19 AM
Lists are back! (Though auto-bookmarked lessons for subscribed channels aren't on there for some reason.)
translatejake
March 07, 2014 at 06:52 PM
I'm glad I'm month to month. I will not be renewing until LISTS are brought back!
Waerde
March 07, 2014 at 03:38 PM
What happened to the Skritter tool? The two pads are seperated, forcing me to scroll up and down to look at translation and to write. That shouldn't be hard to fix!
christopherhapka
March 07, 2014 at 01:47 PM
I (and others) have already complained about the fact that the new layout makes it impossible to tell if you've already studied a lesson in the Library. Hopefully there's a solution for that in the works.
However...while you're at it, it's also kind of annoying that there's no way to tell which lessons in a Course are marked as studied when you view the Course in the dashboard. It would be helpful if you could reflect a lesson having been studied there as well...either by hiding it (as in the Self-Study dashboard) or by marking it (as in the old Library lists).
cndcclryu
March 07, 2014 at 01:16 PM
When will the system probably gets back to normal? Does it take a month or more than a month?
cndcclryu
March 07, 2014 at 01:04 PM
I can't subscribe or pay using paypal? I'm a new user, what happen to this site?
kellyl
March 07, 2014 at 06:43 AM
It looks like the data for the last level test that I took is missing, I'm not sure if this is true for everybody or not.
I also liked the old charting feature that showed test score progress, but the charts seem to be missing now.
Like many others, I'd also love to see the "list view" return again. I also use the vocab lists in Skritter, which doesn't seem to be working either, and would love to see that restored.
Actually if the entire old web site was restored back to what it was before all of the changes, I'd be a pretty happy camper right now :-)
kellyl
March 07, 2014 at 07:35 AM
Actually I found the graphs were still there on the 'progress' tab of the dashboard, sorry!
Alex@ChinesePod
March 07, 2014 at 01:59 AM
Hello Everyone,
I realize some of you are frustrated, but please note that we are doing our best to update the functions of the new site design to fulfill all of your needs. We aim to provide as good a service as before, if not better. If you could, please clearly and with as much detail as possible let us know when something has gone wrong or does not function the way you would like on the site. We will monitor this conversation closely for your bug finds. Best regards,
ChinesePod Support Staff
mark
March 16, 2014 at 02:04 AM
Mikeinewshot, as commented before, any development methodology can be executed poorly. Also, the approach used for the latest rework seems to be a poor combination of "waterfall" and "agile" styles. It was a big batch of changes made in one release; very waterfall. However, the changes appear to have not be comprehensively tested before deployment; "agile" style. The result is too many problems for the development staff to respond to quickly; "waterfall" like responsiveness.
Right-Wingnut
March 09, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Just cancelled my recurring billing. I would rather pay more to get a tutor.
mikeinewshot
March 07, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Hey Mark - How do feel now about the new style web development methodology :-)
helzcurrah
March 07, 2014 at 03:17 AM
Some browsers on Android give you the option to tell the internet that you are a PC. I would have to go home and look at my tablet in order to tell you which one though. Try looking through the browser's settings or downloading a new browser.
mark
March 07, 2014 at 02:20 AM
I, personally, don't like that my android tablet gets a "mobile" interface. This specialized interface also seems to have more problems than the Web site I get from my PC. I guess I'll finally have to figure out how to diddle my user agent string so that I get an actual Web site instead of some, special, made for mobile trash.
cinnamonfern
March 06, 2014 at 03:52 PM
I know it's not the best option (the best option is to fix the connection with Skritter), but in the meantime I'm just copying my vocab into Excel and then copying just the characters into QuickAdd in Skritter. You can copy the whole set of characters in at once. It's really not that much slower than importing through Cpod. The only downside is that you can't study multiple lists at once. You have to go in the order you add the words.
cinnamonfern
March 07, 2014 at 04:13 PM
Yep - that works too, though it also converts the pinyin to characters and so duplicated all the words. When I added it didn't recognize some of the duplicates as duplicates (which it generally removes) and I ended up with a list that only had three words, but it says it has five. Kind of odd.
Shenjian
March 07, 2014 at 01:02 PM
As long as the Hanzi are in that mess of words, Skritter will do the rest of the work for you. You can copy and paste the whole output - words, definitions, links, etc.- into quick add, and skritter will sort out the chaff.
If you want, try making a new list to test it out.
cinnamonfern
March 07, 2014 at 12:10 PM
Yeah - Export CSV gives me gobbledegook too. I just highlight all the vocab that I want to copy in Vocab Manager. This will select the chinese, pinyin and english. I copy and then paste this into Excel. This is better than Wordpad because it partitions the Chinese, Pinyin and English by cell. It also gives me the characters and not gibberish. Then I copy just the Chinese from Excel and paste into Skritter.
This feature breaks every time they update the website. Give them a little while and I'm sure they'll have it up and running again. They always have.
james_uk
March 07, 2014 at 08:22 AM
Thanks so much for your advice, Shenjian.
Unfortunately, opening the file in Wordpad (for me) creates an uncopyable mess of words, definitions and links altogether and at any rate this process seems annoyingly unnecessary.
I will wait for a week or so for Chinesepod's technical team to get its act together, and if functionality is not restored I will have to reconsider if/how I use this service.
Chinesepod, please fix this as soon as possible; it really was an incredibly useful feature.
Shenjian
March 07, 2014 at 02:51 AM
No, you shouldn't have to type out the words one by one.
From the ChinesePod homepage go to the vocabulary tab of the "Tools" page, on this tab you should see an 'export vocabulary' link on the right side of the page. From the export vocabulary page you can select which labels you would like to export. Next, select the "Export CSV" link. Once the file is downloaded, open the file with a simple text editor such as Wordpad (initially I tried using Excel, but the Chinese characters and pinyin did not encode correctly). From Wordpad, select all, and copy and paste into the "quick add" applet of the Skritter list you want to add the words to. It doesn't matter that there are other English words, or multiple copies of the Chinese words, Skritter will pick out the Chinese words and add them to your list, ignoring everything else.
Hope that helps, if you have any problems let me know, and I can try to help you troubleshoot.
james_uk
March 07, 2014 at 01:40 AM
As a short-term solution I will give it a try. But of course it would be better if functionality could be restored as soon as possible!
From where do I copy the vocab? If I scroll over the list of Chinese words it also copies the pinyin and English translations. Do you mean I have to type the words out one by one?
Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated.
Shenjian
March 06, 2014 at 11:00 PM
Again, it's not the best option, but if you did want to study multiple lists, you could create multiple lists and quick add vocabulary to each list separately. That way, you could get a more even review of vocabulary from your previously studied lessons.
My concern with manually adding vocabulary is that even though theoretically Skritter lists should be able to handle word redundancy throughout various lists, I've ran into some bugs that require further retooling of vocab lists, so I'd prefer not to deal with an extra layer of troubleshooting if possible.
james_uk
March 06, 2014 at 01:31 PM
Please, please, please bring back list functionality with Skritter as soon as possible.
On the Skritter website I am unable to log in to download Chinesepod lists. Previously, I had learned words using Skritter before listening to the podcasts, which significantly helped with my learning.
But now this functionality is gone - will it ever come back?
This collaboration with Skritter was an essential factor in my decision to pay for a Premium Subscription with Chinesepod, and without it I will most likely not continue subscribing.
Shenjian
March 04, 2014 at 11:44 PM
I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this yet, but the Chinese Pod lists are currently unavailable for study on Skritter. When I attempt to log into my Chinese Pod account via skritter to access lists, I receive an error message-
ChinesePod Error:
Password is incorrect
(Yes, I verified that my password is correct, this is a system bug).
Please add this to your list of fixes.
podster
March 05, 2014 at 09:33 AM
It would be good if they could acknowledge that it is a bug and they will continue to offer that service. Skritter is excellent.
Paulperrett
March 04, 2014 at 08:45 PM
Any chance of an update from CP advising what they are doing to resolve all these issues and by when? I want to be able to use CP again.
toianw
March 04, 2014 at 10:41 AM
For me, the two biggest issues are...
1. The size of the characters: Reading the dialogue tab used to be easy and clear. The characters were a nice size to read comfortably. Now, I'm going to have to dig my magnifying glass out to study.
2. The search (for glossary and lessons) has disappeared. I used to use that quite a lot.
Right-Wingnut
March 04, 2014 at 11:57 AM
But the search facility IS still there, just in a different spot - next to Tools at the top of the page.
illapa
March 04, 2014 at 06:37 AM
Not task section? In the past I was able to record and update oral test but I don't see the option any longer. Please bring this option back.The website is not fully on service.
helzcurrah
March 04, 2014 at 02:51 AM
Seconded. If you only fix one problem, please please please bring back the lists showing studied/bookmarked icons.
james137
March 04, 2014 at 02:50 AM
THe biggest problem being faced after you brought back the flashcard creation system is lists.
It is ABSOLUTELY important for us to be able to see the lessons we have marked as studied and the ones we havent. it would be even better to also display the actual % we got in the exercizes.
In the self study section there also needs to be this kind of format which shows the lessons completed and not completed. Preferably also showing test scores.
I think that you can guess, many of your full paying users are currently dissatisfied with the upgrade. I hope you can iron out these problems and restore our confidence in your services.
christopherhapka
March 04, 2014 at 06:26 PM
I would be happy with any of these solutions:
1) Make the old view available as an option ("View As List").
2) Add a green checkmark or similar icon to studied lessons in the new view.
3) Add an option to the Library tag to filter out lessons marked as studied (as you can in the Dashboard).
The new view is much, much harder to use for self-study without this feature. And the users who will be hit hardest are newbies, since the newbie lessons (1) are all legacy lessons (no new lessons being produced), and (2) overlap more than the higher-level lessons (for example: "Hello and Goodbye," "A Self-Introduction," and "Making Introductions" are all Newbie lessons).
I understand that undoing all the changes may not be an option, but we need this functionality included in the new design somehow.
aaronhammerling
March 04, 2014 at 10:22 AM
I agree EXACTLY... At the moment it is far too cumbersome to scroll through pages and pages (33 for newbies) trying to find the lessons I haven't completed, only to open one which I have. CPod must return to the old format (maybe even add a % column) - otherwise this new format is too frustrating...
dziner
March 30, 2014 at 12:09 AMI see now that the "Sort by Channel" link is revealed when you click the search icon. This is a confusing implementation that lumps searching and filtering together. These are two very different concepts that need to be kept separate.
Am curious to see how the red boxes might be explained to be an improvement.