How many of you still keep on doing physical exercise?

cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 12:27 AM posted in General Discussion

Hi guys,

I just wonder that how many of you still keep on doing physical exercise?

Yesterday morning, one of my classmate suddenly fell in a faint and i carried her to the clinic on my back, luckily, after the doctor's aid, she came to herself finally. The doctors said that her poor health and did't eat breakfast caused this kind of  faint. This event warn me that we need to do more physical exercise. Hey, we are just in our 20s, we should have a  good health and keep fit!

Here are some new words for you!

physical exercise=体育锻炼ti3yu4 duan4lian4

fall in a faint=晕倒yun1dao3

carry on one's back=背bei1

clinic=医务室yi1wu4shi4

come to oneself=恢复知觉hui1fu4 zhi1jue2

good health=好身体hao3 shen1ti3

keep fit= 保持健康bao3chi2 jian4kang1

 

Cassie

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RJ
March 29, 2008 at 04:40 PM

Hello Doc,

by reading your post I just realized that its easier for me to read characters than pin yin. I suppose thats a good thing but it kind of suprised me. It sounds like in China they are quicker to use IV and allow its use at lower level clinics where as here, we reserve the IV for more serious situations and only initiate at higher level hospitals. I would love to know more about their medical system. I have walked through hospitals and been to clinics but only as an external observer.

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azerdocmom
March 29, 2008 at 03:59 PM

"...that 打针and挂吊瓶 are so rarely in your country before."

@casie, dui4bu4qi3, ni3bu4dong3 wo3de yi4si3, huo4zhe wo3shuo1cuo4le...wo3de yi4si3 shi4 zai4 mei3guo2 da4shui2de "clinic" mei2ting1guo ta1meng2 cang2cang2 gua4ping2. ke3shi4, zai4 yi1yuan4, shi4 cang2cang2 gua4ping.

@RJ...hmmm, that's interesting. MRSA is an epidemic I am all too familiar with in my line of work.

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changye
March 29, 2008 at 01:01 PM

Hi henning,

大约十年前我经常来中国东北出差的时候,

中国老百姓一般都爱喝较便宜的本地啤酒。

可别吃惊最近连年轻人也喜欢喝百威纯生,

由此可见中国经济发展速度还是让人瞩目!

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henning
March 29, 2008 at 10:42 AM

casie,

青岛啤酒 is not bad, but I actually prefer 燕京啤酒.

Highly interesting is also 苦果啤酒

Here in Cologne you can get 青岛啤酒. In one Asian shop they have also 燕京啤酒, but the price is excessive.

Usually I drink Kölsch - 科隆啤酒.

其实喜欢各种各样种啤酒.

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RJ
March 29, 2008 at 10:05 AM

I will have to remember that so I can defend myself against the drip. Even here I think they are quick to start an IV sometimes. "Fluids always good and it provides a quick pathway to administer other drugs if that becomes necessary". I worked in a hospital when I was very young and learned to draw blood. I actually became very good at it and took great pride in this. What I did notice however, is that most doctors are not very good at it (they just dont have to do it very often) and many lab techs and nurses hate doing it so they never become good at it either. To this day I prefer to draw my own blood and IV's are not allowed lightly. My father-in-law ended up with MRSA infection recently due to poor IV maintenance. A small problem now became a big one. It sounds to me like the Chinese have a sort of "placebo effect drip" thing going on. We do similar things here like see a doctor, or get antibiotics for a cold when the fact is they have no impact on a viral infection. Health is the most important thing to all of us and yet we dont teach it in high school the way we should. It takes two to treat the patient, the patient and the doctor, but this is hard if we keep the patients ignorant. Sorry to get off topic a little but this is one thing I feel strongly about.

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wildyaks
March 29, 2008 at 08:41 AM

yes, yes, the drips in China. It's a cure for all and every little ailment. Usually it is just a saltine solution (as I was told) and they would probably use coconut milk if there was nothing else available to be able to get that life-saving drip going...

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cassielin
March 29, 2008 at 07:27 AM

azerdocmom,

You are welcome. Yes, you can double up some words in Mandarin.

I never know that 打针and挂吊瓶 are so rarely in your country before. Yes, it is very common here, you can choose to take an injection if you get a fever发烧. But i seldom take an injection or take medicine, i just do that because i have to.

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azerdocmom
March 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Hi casie

That's great :) That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. I love this phrase, "让我检查检查." It's like Clay said, you can double up anything in Mandarin and it sounds so nice; it softens it and sounds really native!

@auntie 68, I too am struck by the use of IVs at a school clinic; I haven't been on a college campus for many years, and don't really know if they have the capacity to use IVs.

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changye
March 28, 2008 at 11:11 PM

I think that "打点滴 (dian3 di1)" would probably be a more popular and colloquial translation for "get (or administer) an intravenous drip." I have never heard local people (and even doctors) say "静脉滴注" or "滴注" in my town, at least. Similarly, "打针 (da3 zhen1)" is much more commonly used than "注射" for "get a shot" , although Japanese people only use the latter one.

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cassielin
March 28, 2008 at 02:56 PM

oops, it is late here, i should go now, good night guys!

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cassielin
March 28, 2008 at 02:55 PM

哈哈henning, 你想要有将军肚子?You are so funny!

I guess you may like 青岛啤酒^_^

你玩过划拳游戏吗?划拳hua2quan2=finger-guessing game

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cassielin
March 28, 2008 at 02:35 PM

arzedocmom,

Here is the lesson Going to the Doctor from Chinesepod

http://chinesepod.com/lessons/going-to-the-doctor/discussion

A:你哪里不舒服?

B:我喉咙痛。

A:还有什么不舒服? 发烧吗?

B:没有,不发烧。

A:来,张开嘴,让我看看。

And about my conversation that day was that:

Cassie: 医生,她晕倒了。

Doctor: 先让她躺在病床上,让我检查检查。

Doctor: 有什么症状?

Cassie:她刚才吐了,脸色惨白。

Doctor: 有吃早饭吗?

Cassie:没有。

Doctor:血糖有些低,先给她喝点糖水。等下再开点药。

That is what i can remember so far. Hope it can help.

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changye
March 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Hi auntie68,

It was quite a cultural shock for me when I first saw a man, being put on a drip, walking alone on the street here in China. His arm was being raised to keep his infusion bottle high. Later I realized that it is just one of those things in my small town.

Both doctors and patients really seem to love intravenous drips in China, and more surprisingly even a heavily drunken guy sometimes gets a drip to alleviate his hangover in the morning. As for me, I always read a book relaxingly while being on a drip.

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auntie68
March 28, 2008 at 06:29 AM

I mean, just think how many personal medical charts will be have to signed, and later, transcribed -- by how many nurses or even doctors, and how many times -- as long as you have somebody on a drip. Even for an hour or two. And then you have to scrub down the room, and find some way to dispose of the "sharps" and account for the bags... it sounds like a hospital administrator's nightmare.

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auntie68
March 28, 2008 at 06:24 AM

Thanks henning. Wow! I wonder how China can afford to give all those intravenous drips as first-line primary care. Here it is considered to be too expensive because of all the constant bloodwork and monitoring, not to mention infection control, that comes with such treatment. Here, if you can't swallow the treatment or rub it on your skin, they will refer you to a hospital. That's just our local culture, I guess...

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henning
March 28, 2008 at 06:11 AM

In Beijing 静脉滴注 seems to be the ultimate passtime for Chinese hospital doctors (@casie: Thanks for that piece of vocab!). Even if you come with a slight cold - first thing happens: intravenous drip.

In September my nephew went to the hospital because of low fever and a running nose. Guess what he got? But there was a line because that day more than 100 kids got that treatment...

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auntie68
March 28, 2008 at 12:32 AM

Hi. I'm no doctor (unlike arizona-e.r.-doctor-mom), but one thing which casie mentioned did hit me with a mild "ding" of "cultural difference".

Here in Singapore, I don't think that clinics (including school clinics, no matter how well-equipped they are) are authorized to administer intravenous drips.

The clinic doctors are authorized to perform simple "surgery" such as putting in stitches and lancing, but apart from the "numbing" shots that these procedures require, or perhaps routine vaccinations, they wouldn't administer any substances directly into somebody's veins.

I am asking this because, over the years, I have come across Chinese lessons on visiting the doctor, and the impression I always get is that it may be fairly routine to receive an injection, even for something like fever? Thanks for helping to clear the fog in my brain!

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azerdocmom
March 28, 2008 at 12:02 AM

What else did your friend and the doctor say? What was the doctor's advice? Could you write the hanzi of their conversation? It might be instructive for others who may need medical attention in China to learn some basic health/medical terms in the context of a conversation rather than just isolated vocabulary words.

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calkins
March 27, 2008 at 11:58 PM

Speaking of medical treatment, does the mainland have universal health care, like Taiwan does?

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rich
March 27, 2008 at 11:32 PM

See, this is how Casie gets all these posting points... she comes up with these topics that are so personal to us, and gets us to realize the words we need to learn to defend ourselves in such situations as "do we exercise?"... etc.etc.etc. Work of a true evil genius. Ha ha.

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cassielin
March 27, 2008 at 11:20 PM

azerdocmom,

oh, we posted the last comment at the same time!:-)

You know, every school or college has its 医务室in China, it is a small one and just can do some basic medical treatment. Such as to give an injection, have an intravenous drip and to prescribe medicine, etc.(Is it "clinic" in English? or there is another word fit 医务室in English?)

治疗zhi4liao2=medical treatment

打针da3zhen1=to give or have an injection

静脉滴注jing4mai4 di1zhu4=intravenous drip

We also call 打吊瓶da3 diao4ping2=have an intravenous drip

开药kai1yao4=to prescribe medicine

You know, if it need some detail examine or higher medical treatment, the doctor in the clinic will suggest us to go to the hospital.

My friend did not say “我不要去”, but she did say“我很难受”="I feel ill". When i saw the doctor, i said “医生, 她晕倒了。”

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henning
March 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM

casie,

当然喜欢呗, 谁都不喜欢喝啤酒?

我觉得 (希望? 期望? 渴望? 幻想?) 还没长一个将军肚子。 肥肉或多或少还在全身上均匀分布的。

:P

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cassielin
March 27, 2008 at 02:56 PM

henning,

Do you like drinking beer? Do you refer to that you have a beer belly when you mentioned soft 肚子 ? Or may be not, just a soft 肚子^_^

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azerdocmom
March 27, 2008 at 02:56 PM

casie, I am curious what kind of clinic you took your friend to, what was done for her and was there any tests run on her.

But, more importantly, it might be instructive if you would reproduce the hanzi of the conversation that went on between you, your friend and the doctor/nurse who attended to her. For instance, did your friend say, "我不要去!" when you took her to the clinic. Or, did you say, "他暈到了!“

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henning
March 27, 2008 at 02:28 PM

James,

here it is:

http://chinesepod.com/lessons/calisthenics/

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jamestheron
March 27, 2008 at 01:53 PM

So, is there a ChinesePod workout lesson? A Dear Amber exercise video? I searched for "Flatten your newbie abs with Ken Carroll" and came up empty. ;)

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chillosk
March 27, 2008 at 01:03 PM

Thanks cassie! I'll take note of the 中文 translation whenever I do situps and pushups! "situp=仰卧起坐yang3wo4qi3zuo4 pushup=俯卧撑fu3wo4cheng1"

谢谢啊! 加油!加油!

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bazza
March 27, 2008 at 12:59 AM

Cassie, I like your new avatar, you look very sophisticated in glasses. ;)

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rich
March 27, 2008 at 12:24 AM

I should be as addictive as you Casie, as this is the industry I am learning Chinese and all that goes with it for. Ha ha. I am way behind on my podcast listening and Dear Ambers, etc.

Bazza, that sucks your friend *maybe* removed you for that. I never found your requests that annoying, as it is fun to see what you're up to even if it isn't something I play (partly due to the school firewall preventing me). I have only had to remove one guy I had only added because he was on the list of people in my year of high school, yet EVERY DAY he would invite me to practically EVERY application, more than once too... and a lot of them were like dating services or "Am I hot" kind of things... and the guy is married!!!

Casie (your turn again), your post got me to make sure I went and did cardio-vascular(心血管的) exercises today... thanks so much for your encouragement!!! Do keep getting on here to give us a daily dose of encouragement and learning. ;)

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cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Oh, it is early morning here and i should admit that i am addict to Chinesepod!!! Look, the first thing i do after get up is to check out Chinesepod! Oh man! I should stop for the present and get ready for my listening class! Hope you guys can have a nice day or good night!

Cassie^_^

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cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Brooke,

Congratulations!

I can understand why you worry about the extra pounds. If you have no enough time, I think it would be a good idea to take chillosk's advice, do some situps and pushups! I can do situps and that works. However, it is hard for me to do pushups!

Btw, situp=仰卧起坐yang3wo4qi3zuo4 pushup=俯卧撑fu3wo4cheng1

Go brooke!

Cassie

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Joachim
March 26, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Exercise? Like getting up every morning to go to work??

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bingge
March 26, 2008 at 04:46 PM

On a more serious note - I'm glad your friend is feeling better, Casie. Thanks for the excellent reminder.

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bingge
March 26, 2008 at 04:45 PM

If you are out exercising, I suggest not listening to Qing Wen or Movie Madness or Dear Amber while you walk/run/etc. You start to laugh out loud and people give you funny looks. Pretty soon you start to wonder about your sanity. Who laughs while they walk/run? Really, people.

:^)

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bazza
March 26, 2008 at 03:46 PM

Cassie, I do usually go swimming regularly but haven't gone over winter, should get back into it again. I can't really a do a front crawl but can do a ok breaststroke. I think the trick is to breath in above the surface, then breathe out underwater mostly out of your mouth but also a little from your nose and that stops you getting water up your nose.

I have prescription goggles for swimming as I can't see without my glasses hehe.

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henning
March 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM

Thanks a lot, casie!

If I think about it, it is not only a soft "点", actually, but something a lot bigger: a soft 肚子。

:)

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cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 03:02 PM

Bazza,

I agree with Rich, and i did ignore a lot requests from facebook, no offensive, i just not in facebook. I just post some pictures of mine and do nothing else.

Hey, Bazza, you seems like a lazy guy that not in physical exercise as well as me!LoL^_^ But i do like walking and i often walk quickly and that is good for us! I had a swimming course when i was a sophomore, but i still can not swim yet. The most hard part for me is to hope the breath under the water. I only can do it when i use my fingers to pinch my nose. My PE coach said that it will be funny to see a person swimming with his/her fingers pinch the nose. So i thought i was so stupid at that time!

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cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 02:39 PM

henning,

You have 丰盛的早餐feng1sheng4de zao3can1(I think it is "rich/ sumptuous/abundant breakfast" in English, right?) ^_^

Yes, you have no risk of fainting. Me too! You know if you don't eat breakfast or any other meal, you will fainting due to glycopenia低血糖di1xue4tang2 /hypoglycemia血糖过低xue4tang2 guo4 di1

henning, we say “发帖”in chinese not “写帖”. And i guess you meant "You hit my soft spot with this post".

你的这张帖点到了我的弱点。 :-)

Cassie

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GreyPhoenix
March 26, 2008 at 02:36 PM

This post is right on time... I'm just getting ready to go for a walk, but was considering procrastinating. With my wedding coming up mid-June, and extra pounds gained from a recent visit to Grandma's, however, there's certainly no time for procrastination! Thanks, Casie! (And I'm glad your friend is okay!)

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cassielin
March 26, 2008 at 02:04 PM

Thank you guys, She is okay now!她现在没事了!Ta1 xian4zai4 mei2shi4 le!

Calkins,

My dictionary shows that 恢复知觉means come around/come to oneself/regain awareness after fainting.

失去知觉shi1qu4 zhi1jue2=to lose consciousness is the opposite phrase for 恢复知觉

知觉zhi1jue2 here means consciousness/sentience/feeling

I am not sure is there any difference among those English words, i meant "consciousness, sentience, feeling"

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bazza
March 26, 2008 at 01:33 PM

rich, I try don't to do that as much now, I lost one of my friends because of that, I think it was because that, she won't re-add me so I don't know for sure. :(

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rich
March 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM

But Casie, thanks for the reminder.... even no matter how busy we are, exercise can relieve stress, make us feel better about ourself, and oh yeah, keep us from 晕倒ing. Great words, and you are a great friend (to her, and to us!)

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rich
March 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM

And Bazza, you do a great job at encouraging others to "exercise" with you as well, with all the requests you send. Nothing personal and not offense, but sadly the exercise I almost only get is clicking the "Ignore" button from such requests... ha ha (but keep sending the invitations, maybe one day I will turn to the dark side. ;)

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billglover
March 26, 2008 at 10:04 AM

Exercise? I think I remember what that is.

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bazza
March 26, 2008 at 07:14 AM

Does facebook poker count as exercise? ;)

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chillosk
March 26, 2008 at 06:45 AM

Walking is a great exercise, and living in China will really involve lots of walking (for those with no cars or bikes). But if you want more and have less time, try doing some 30 reps/3 sets of situps and 15pushups/3 sets of situps when you guys wake up. Great for the health and for waking up the 头脑。hehe.

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henning
March 26, 2008 at 05:35 AM

哎哟, casie.

How would you say: "You hit a soft spot with this this post?"

写这贴你挖出了一张弱点。。。

至少我吃了早饭吃了不少, 可以说没有晕倒的冒险。 吃了 面包,巧克力, 再加上喝了几杯咖啡加新鲜的牛奶。。。

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man2toe
March 26, 2008 at 05:02 AM

Not in my 20's anymore, but in the 30's I try to exercise daily.

My plan is to exercise daily until death takes me from this world.

Good health to all.

Eat ManTou.

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bento
March 26, 2008 at 04:35 AM

I don't owe a car. My walk to work takes only 15 minutes but most times I use a bike, five minutes. Thats all the physical exercise do, and it is fine for me.

I've grown increasingly hedonistic in the last couple of years. I don't swim, I don't run, I don't do yoga and I really don't lift weights. My job includes walking in the forest, so it I guess that helps... what else could someone ask for?

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calkins
March 26, 2008 at 02:44 AM

Wow Cassie, what a good friend to carry your friend on your back! I hope she's okay.

Good vocab....can you explain 恢复知觉 (come to oneself)? Does that mean to regain awareness after fainting?

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pchenery
March 26, 2008 at 02:09 AM

This is a topic that I take seriously indeed. CPOD has lots of great lessons related to this too; Going to the Gym, Calisthenics, Going on A Diet etc...among my favorite lessons I almost know by heart.

Hope your friend is feeling better. And thanks for that healthy vocab !