Cute Deletion Trick
Tal
September 26, 2010 at 03:06 PM posted in General DiscussionIt seems that when a user deletes a comment he or she has made, all responses to that comment are also deleted. Thanks go to user go_manly/mynash/godfrey_bigot/etc/etc/etc for discovering and quietly enjoying this little trick, as the brief conversation below illustrates. What a great fellow he is.

Is this a bug though? Maybe it's a design feature. It may make some people happy.
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 01:38 AM
Thanks for your attention. I'm sure most users wouldn't want to abuse the system and other users in this way anyway, but unfortunately there are always a few whose behavior requires restraints to be built in to the system.
johnb
September 27, 2010 at 01:34 AM
I agree. I'm not sure what we can do about it in the short term, but it's something we should look at longer term.
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 01:27 AM
john, I only recently became aware of this due to the above user's regular use of this little trick. I can see that it's not really a bug, but my concern is that it seems to give the power of a board moderator to a common user. All he has to do is keep an editing window open for any length of time, then when he chooses can wipe out any number of comments from other users, many of whom might not even be aware of it. Just doesn't seem right.
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 01:04 AM
Mate, if I see you asking a stupid and tactless question of a disabled person coming here to learn, I will exercise my right to post a comment. Any paying CPod user has that right, and it is inappropriate and wrong for you to tell anyone not to make posts here.
If you do not enjoy reading a post I make, the solution is simple: don't read it, don't respond to it. You simply make yourself look ridiculous with these little deletion games, do you really thing the regulars and staff here don't notice? You're harking back to your sock puppet days, might I suggest you join the rest of us on planet Earth now and again?
Trust me, I have no intention whatsoever of "just going away". I have enjoyed learning and interacting on Chinesepod for several years now, and plan to continue for many more. Have a nice day!
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 09:22 AM
It's a glitch in the Matrix . It happens when they change something. I'll have to be quick. Hmm... maybe:
Hasta la Vista, baby!
catherinem
September 27, 2010 at 09:22 AM
Unfortunately it is a deliberate act. We're taking steps to fix it. Thanks for your understanding!
xiao_liang
September 27, 2010 at 09:15 AM
Is that username a bug or deliberate? It's messing up the page formatting.
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 05:34 AM
It's not what you say, old sport, it's how you say it. It's your hypersensitivity to the slightest word, your readiness to take offence, your love of control and 'order' combined with an aversion to, nay disdain for, the basic human niceties. I'm sorry old sport, but you're a type, there's no amateur psychology about it.
go_manly
September 27, 2010 at 05:03 AM
You say 'not married' as though its a negative. The only positives I can think of in marriage, I can get elsewhere. And the negatives - ugh, why would anyone go through it.
BTW, I think you should stop playing amateur psychologist. Your analysis is rarely close to the mark. I still can't think what comments I could have made that indicate I'm looking for an 'ego-massage'.
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 02:49 AM
Oh yes, my words in your posted thread were somewhat lacking in the ego-massage you seem to constantly require, I'll give you that. I was just rubbed up the wrong way by your irrelevant whining about "some people" daring to ignore your proscription about posting in your downloads group. I don't think I was so far out of order really, I'm sure that is the only occasion when I have spoken to you thus. Yet rudeness, incivility and verbal abuse have been your common currency here since your sock puppet days.
As I said, 放心吧. I won't sweat to give you your other 10%, but if you choose to tell me not to participate here, if you offer abuse and juvenile taunting as your mode of communication, then your life will continue to be one of disappointment and frustration. Try to let go and adjust your mind man, there's a part of you knows what I'm talking about right?
Yeah dude, enjoy the beach and the ogling. Something tells me you're not married right? Something tells me you need that beach more than I do.
go_manly
September 27, 2010 at 02:06 AM
Memory lapses tal? - perhaps you should seek professional help.
Try this comment for starters
http://chinesepod.com/community/conversations/post/8713#comment-187915
Its true that 90% of your comments to me have been helpful. But if I can't choose not to get the other 10%, then I choose to get no input from you.
Anyway, its off to the beach, where I can interact with a few of my (human) friends. Oh, and also look at a few topless girls - should I seek help for that too?
Tal
September 27, 2010 at 01:49 AM
Well I've just been searching my memory, trying to recall 'negative and paranoid' posts I have made to you. I do seem to recall offering you help with your Chinese many times, offering you encouragement and praise (despite your frequent brusque and unfriendly tone), carefully going through transcripts you have posted in response to your request for help, carefully answering questions you have posted on these boards, (in fact offering help to other users when I am able to do so is something I enjoy.) I assure you it is not my intention to "jump in" if such help is unwelcome. Have no fear, I will offer you no further such help.
On the whole my honest opinion is that you are a person who has issues interacting with other humans generally. Perhaps you should seek professional help.
go_manly
September 27, 2010 at 01:29 AM
I wasn't challenging your 'right'. I can't stop you posting. But for months now I have been avoiding making comments in reply to yours, unless your comment was directed at or written about me. All blowups for at least the last 9 months have been initiated by YOU jumping in on my comments, typically with a negative and paranoid reply. It seems your adage above: "If you do not enjoy reading a post I make, the solution is simple: don't read it, don't respond to it" - doesn't apply to you. You know what's in store when you jump in, yet you do it over and over again - it's very Homer Simpsonish actually.
And why do you deliberately restate that 'going away' is a suggestion to leave CPod, when I quite clearly explained that I just want you to stay away from me.
"regular use of this little trick" - from below
Again, you like to overstate your case. I had done it only once before, and again it was you who had butted in unnecessarily. Its not like I prepare for it - I never know when you're going to stick your snotty nose in.
Tal
September 26, 2010 at 11:28 PM
Sad. Next this problem user makes a post here telling me not to post on Chinesepod, not to respond to his posts if I "do not want them to be deleted". I make a reasoned response to this post pointing out that I had made a single innocuous response to a comment he made (visible above in my first post here,) and then guess what? The problem user deletes his post again so that my reasoned response is also removed.
I think this further illustrates that this little kink must be a 'fly in the ointment' here. Allowing users to at any time delete any comment they have made (and thus any responses to it) just opens the door to this kind of anti-social dishonesty and abuse. When "threaded comments" were introduced here this surely was not the intention?
go_manly
September 27, 2010 at 12:43 AM
You do like to use a little embellishment, don't you mate.
"not to post on Chinesepod" - you're kidding, right?
You didn't manage to get a screen capture of that one did you?
What I DID say was "I just want this mozzie to go away". Why don't you just do that - just stay away from me and neither one of us will have any more problems. No innocuous comments - nothing.

johnb
September 27, 2010 at 01:23 AMIt's not really a bug... if you think of the threaded comments being a tree, with the first post being the trunk and all of the comments being branches... if you lop off a branch, you're going to take all of the subbranches attached to it off as well. As for people taking advantage of the way this works... we'll have to figure out a way to deal with it.