User Comments - man2toe
man2toe
Posted on: Global Warming
June 22, 2007 at 5:27 AM[QUOTE] Chinese is a tonal language. Ken, as a teacher and host, is purporting to TEACH the language. [QUOTE] Auntie are you purporting to TEACH Chinese by using letters and numbers?
Posted on: Global Warming
June 22, 2007 at 5:08 AMOTT????是甚麼意思? yi1壹?衣?依?醫? 等等 dian2 好像沒有二聲的dian ye3 野?冶?埜?漜?壄? 當然妳的意思是也可是用拼音真的那麼清楚? bu4 我不想 所以妳想 一點也不 比 完全不 好用. 哼,可能.
Posted on: Global Warming
June 22, 2007 at 4:45 AM@clarence 我完全不贊同你的看法.
Posted on: Global Warming
June 21, 2007 at 7:24 AM哼，我以為中文播客是要學習中文的地方． 一看到這麼多的英文字，好像我剛上ＥｎｇｌｉｓｈＯｎＤｅｍａｎｄ．ｃｏｍ． 我千萬不會讓別人把我的自由扔掉． 如果你不要看我寫的中文就別看． 由你下決定． 不理我好了． 可是，我真想要學好中文．我承認我的能力寫，說，聽，讀中文是有很多很多缺點．我的英文到底有很多缺點．英文是我的母語嘛．可是我先能去甚麼地方學完美的中文才能來這裡留言呢？ 我須要這裡，我須要這裡的幫忙．我須要這裡的老師．我須要這裡的同學．我須要幾位勇敢的人來糾正我著述的錯誤．我須要一個安全的環境．上面寫得討論並不是很安全． 請你，我國際的同胞，跟我一起爬這個很高的語言山．我不能一個人爬而能成功．如果你要求我的幫助，我答應盡力幫忙． 哼，我以為中文播客是要學習中文的地方．
Posted on: Global Warming
June 19, 2007 at 4:47 PMlol, Ken's post beat me to the line. And again, he shows a great attitude.
Posted on: Global Warming
June 19, 2007 at 4:46 PMIs it respectful to criticize, or gently remind, or softly point out to a person about their tones when they live in China, make a living learning the language, and has already shown the humility to recognize flaws, and has shown the determination to make corrections. A person in a situation like this, hourly is under the pressure of communication, and the importance of getting communication correct. Enduring hourly corrections from the environment. So is well intended constructive criticism from learners around the world really constructive? Well Auntie, hard to respond now, I am in between a hard and a hard space. My intent was to soften some criticism that really has little to no base to having been said. That said criticism was of John's change of infection between his English and Mandarin. As for my support of Ken, that was my intention, supporting him. He knows his tones can be off, he has said so numerous times and has even changed his involvement with lesson teaching because of it. Yet, here again, he has to endure more criticism of his language learning. Of course we can point out issues that we have with the service. I like you it seems, have had a less than positive experience with the change over from v2 to v3, and seemingly like yourself, have also felt chided for bring up my complaints and not just blindly praising Cpod. Furthermore, I am of the opinion in Ken's case, that his drive, stick-to-itiveness(sry for my lack of knowledge in spelling this word,if it even a word), and his willingness to put down his pride for the sake of learning. This, in my mind, out weighs the value of perfect tones. Cpod supplies numerous proper examples of the language, and in Ken's case, he also supplies a valuable asset to what it takes for all to learn language. So, if this still is not satisfactory explanation of my above efforts, then yes, it is perfectionism to continue to harp on Ken's tones. As for the sandpaper comment, harsh. Yet, it does seem, from this chair at least, that there has been an unusual amount of tough posts lately. I repost John's comments as to how Cpod handles themselves and their responsibility to us. "Interesting comments about my voice here! It's something I hadn't really noticed. I had thought that I was low key in both English and Chinese, but could it be more pronounced in Chinese? I am honestly not sure about this... Maybe Jenny can give her opinion, since I talk to her a lot in both English and Chinese, on and off the show. As for quality, I agree with everything everyone said here. We must improve the consistency and the quality of all aspects of the service (not just the lessons). I have just returned from vacation, and I'll be working hard to do just that!" If in anyway I have offended, first, I apologize, second, let me know, I have thick skin on my face so I can handle the adjustment. Rock on learners of Chinese.
Posted on: Introducing the Fix
June 19, 2007 at 5:01 AMWell done. Good work Dave. The method of saying the English and giving the listener time to reproduce the Mandarin, without a doubt, will help enhance speaking ability. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
Posted on: Global Warming
June 19, 2007 at 2:27 AMJohn, Your Chinese rocks. You are close, if not even over, one hundred lessons now. I have listened to most of them, each numerous times, and not once have I thought you lacked confidence in your Mandarin. However, repeatedly I have thought you've shown great poise and enviable modeling. Recently, on the new 請問 podcast, I discovered that there is another non-native speaker there at Cpod that also has impeccable Mandarin. This would be Amber. Frankly John, IMO, she has a prettier voice than yours. This is meant to be a compliment to you and her. We wouldn't what your voice to pretty now would we? I am shocked that any non-native Mandarin learner poddie would have the audacity to even come close to criticizing your Mandarin. IMO if any non-native Mandarin speaker has the courage to get in front of a mic and broadcast their voice, teaching to anyone in the world who wants to listen, they have earned the privilege to be encouraged and praised by their students (knowing that the teacher is in a quality organization-as Cpod is). I am sure that Jenny, Peggy, Aggie, Connie and.... are enough, healthy, constructive criticism for all there at Cpod. This goes for you too Ken. I tire of the perfectionism that is out there expecting all of your tones to be on target. It is you that is modeling to all of us learners out here, as to what is takes to learn. Despite harsh criticism, you stand in the face of it with strong confidence and continue to fight, teach, and produce a marvelous tool for all willing, disgruntled or otherwise, learners of Mandarin in the world. 加油中文播客! Furthermore, I will second the TALK FREELY post that Lantian posted somewhere here on Cpod. We are here to learn, work to be better, not be perfect. I write in characters in hope that someone with more knowledge will point out my mistakes, in turn TEACHING me. One of the most basic principles of being human is that we learn from mistakes. In one word, children. Man I am hot. I don't know if it's because I am all fired up over this discussion or if its... its... global warming? So much for the global warming discussion topic:(
Posted on: 酒鬼
June 17, 2007 at 5:50 PM寫得好. 可是我本來的問題是要求如果 -釀-這個字是否常用的. 我作才讀到了這個字. 我沒聽過釀的用法.
Posted on: Lili and Zhang Liang 16: It's Over
June 23, 2007 at 2:17 AMdaolin- I am thinking you may have projected your profession however. By chance are you educated in psychotherapy? I would like to here an episode where LiLi or Jiang Liang go to a therapist and have a talk.