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Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 2:03 PMhey, I've just noticed in that article, the first chart is the one I learnt as a kid [age 12.....I also notice that John learnt the American one around age 10]...the two handed British finger spelling system which was devised around 1790. I haven't used it since but I still remember it clearly.
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 1:48 PMI'm sure John won't mind me posting this link here:
http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2007/04/02/chinese-sign-language-fingerspelling
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 1:41 PMSo is the lesson avatar a version of the American sign language alphabet?
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 1:36 PMbtw, this is also reminding me of the "What's the Story" series and how many noted at the time that they found seeing the face helpful [due to the added cues ]
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 1:34 PM"Each speech sound (phoneme) has a particular facial and mouth position (viseme), although many phonemes share the same viseme and thus are impossible to distinguish from visual information alone. Sounds whose place of articulation is inside the mouth or throat are not detectable, such as glottal consonants. Voiced and unvoiced pairs look identical"
..apparently 30-40% of sounds in English distinguishable by sight alone. I wonder what the figure is for Chinese.
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 12:49 PMI'm also wondering how much success 聋哑人 have lipreading 普通话。。particularly if they have any success in distinguishing tones. Anyone know?
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 12:43 PMGreat lesson and great topic. Impressed that CPod have come up with this one and furthermore that John's learning one and offering a little encouragement to those interested. An interesting quote from wikipedia:
Sign languages' relationships with oral languages
A common misconception is that sign languages are somehow dependent on oral languages, that is, that they are oral language spelled out in gesture, or that they were invented by hearing people.
Manual alphabets (fingerspelling) are used in sign languages, mostly for proper names and technical or specialised vocabulary borrowed from spoken languages. The use of fingerspelling was once taken as evidence that sign languages were simplified versions of oral languages, but in fact it is merely one tool among many. Fingerspelling can sometimes be a source of new signs, which are called lexicalized signs.
On the whole, deaf sign languages are independent of oral languages and follow their own paths of development.
Posted on: Skincare: Moisturizing Cream
December 6, 2010 at 3:51 PM可能是“愿意”。。反正那个就是我的猜【让我想起来那个课程“will you marry me?" 在这里】
Posted on: Using a Character Dictionary
December 6, 2010 at 12:16 AMlol. Thanks for the suggestion mate. :)
"cliff-hanger"...in a discussion about dictionaries...hehe...are you using this to describe the emotional state we were left in for this period of time, or are you using your own description of one of the strokes introduced in the lesson such as pie 丿..which can also be shaped 乁 ?
Posted on: Sign Language in China
December 8, 2010 at 2:07 PMyeah, I don't know the ASL, but a quick google showed the avatar was almost identical to the ASL except for one or two letters. That's why I wrote version, but I also wondered whether it was just the angle of the photo on those letters.