translations please
user19199
August 27, 2007 at 04:23 PM posted in General Discussionhow do you translate the emphasised 'but'? as in ' i am but a maths teacher'.
also how do you translate 'instead of'? this is my first post and i dont know if im suppose to ask for translations here.
goulnik
September 03, 2007 at 03:57 AM
thx amber, I've long divorced French from my mind, so much so that it often takes some effort to put it back in, so I know the feeling, I'm just about to get to that point with Chinese but not quite there yet.
amber
September 03, 2007 at 03:13 AM
Hi goulniky,
\"I'm coming to Shanghai next month, and by then I must complete five projects.\"
我下个月要去上海。在去上海以前我要完成五个项目。
(Wǒ xià ge yuè yào qù Shànghǎi. Zài qù Shànghǎi yǐqián wǒ yào wánchéng wǔ ge xiàngmù.)
or
我下个月要去上海。在这以前我要完成五个项目。
(Wǒ xià ge yuè yào qù Shànghǎi. Zài zhè yǐqián wǒ yào wánchéng wǔ ge xiàngmù.)
It's a bit different than how we would say it in English, which is often the case, that one cannot directly translate from English to Chinese. 截至 (jiézhì) is very formal and would usually only be used in a written notice, that sort of thing.
Don't worry, though. The more you are exposed to Chinese, you won't have to directly translate from English. You will get more and more of the hang of how things are expressed in Chinese, without even thinking about English. Best to divorce the English from your mind, I have learned... :)
excuter
August 31, 2007 at 01:54 PM
propably there are even better version that could be used but thinking chinese isn´t that easy if your not in china and don´t have a level of understanding where the words just flow and you don´t need to think ;-)
goulnik
August 31, 2007 at 01:13 PM
great, thanks. I just fell into this same trap I'm often complaining about when asked to translate into English, namely that most things aren't translated word-for-word (e.g. "by then") it's the whole sentence that must be arranged differently
excuter
August 31, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I found this versions using IMtranslator
我来临到北京下个月, 我必须那时完成5 个项目
or
我来临到北京下个月, 我一定那时完成了5 个项目
I´m coming to Beijing next month, by then I must have completed 5 projects
or
我来临到北京下个月, 我的5 个项目必须然后被完成
I´m coming to Beijing next month, then my 5 projects have to be completed
goulnik
August 31, 2007 at 07:44 AM
another of these questions, "by then" as in "I'm coming to Shanghai next month, by then I must ...(complete 5 projects)" . I can of course say 去(来)上海以前我要——
How about 截至 jiézhì, by [a specified time], would 截至10月我要—— work too?
goulnik
August 31, 2007 at 03:48 AM
thanks amber, interesting point that the adj-地 in the first example becomes adj-的 in the second.
amber
August 31, 2007 at 02:19 AM
hi goulnicky and excuter,
You can say:
我断断续续地学过3年中文。
Wǒ duànduànxùxù de xué guò 3 nián Zhōngwén.
or:
我学过3年中文,但都是断断续续的。
Wǒ xué guo 3 nián Zhōngwén, dàn dōu shì duànduànxùxù de.
excuter
August 30, 2007 at 03:25 PM
chinesePera-kun says it´s receptacle,vessel which also makes me wonder...
CPod any help on this on?
goulnik
August 29, 2007 at 04:47 PM
another translation question, I was wondering how to say "off and on" as in "I've been learning Chinese for x years, off and on".
I finally came across 间断[地]jiànduàn and 断断续续[地] duànduànxùxù[de], love the sound of that one, but is there a better way to say this?
Incidentally, 谷歌 (Google) offers 我一直在努力学习中文,过上 x 年 which doesn't really help, does it?
the NWP dictionary in
excuter
August 29, 2007 at 04:15 PM
right, that´s what we do and I´m sorry to have to correct you, but leviathan was so kind to give this example your reffering to. I only offerd some tools for him to find it out himself.
IMtranslator gives this sentence
我是仅数学老师
so leviathans version is correct but yours is more teacher friendly I guess ;-)
johnb
August 28, 2007 at 02:37 AM
For me, 我只是个数学老师 sounds better for "I am but a maths teacher." 仅 seems more formal, and is more often seen in compounds like 不仅, 仅仅, 仅有, etc. (though you could have used 仅是 in your sentence, executer).
The various usages of "instead" are translated into a few different words in Chinese. Perhaps the example sentences found in the ChinesePod dictionary would be of help: http://labs.chinesepod.com/?q=node%2F4&search=instead
No problem with asking question in the Conversation section. Talking about Chinese is what we do here :).
leviathan
August 27, 2007 at 10:13 PM
Hello
i am only a maths teacher
我是仅数学老师
wǒ shì jǐn shùxué lǎoshī
仅 jǐn means only or merely
Examples
http://labs.chinesepod.com/?q=node%2F4&search=%E4%BB%85
excuter
August 27, 2007 at 07:28 PM
before you ask please try to find out yourself (helps learning it) here some sites to help you find the answer:
http://www.nciku.com/
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|zh-CN
and a firefox plugin to translate from english to chinese and the otherway around :-)
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/downloads/file/8665/imtranslator-3.2-fx.xpi
goulnik
September 03, 2007 at 04:01 AMby the way, it looks like the script entering those comments into the system is having problems parsing apostrophes (now have \\ in front) and links.