tones of 七 and 八

paulk43
August 18, 2010 at 02:59 PM posted in General Discussion

Hi All,

I recall learning (many years ago) that 七 or 八 will become second-tone when preceding a fourth-tone word. I recently found that the native speakers I know do not do this. Am I misremembering? Thanks!

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simonpettersson
September 09, 2010 at 12:26 PM

I've heard it from the girl who works in the local 东北 restaurant. Sure enough, the local (cantonese) she was saying it to had trouble understanding her.

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lujiaojie
August 19, 2010 at 02:16 AM

Yes, 七 or 八 can become second-tone when preceding a fourth-tone word. But I never do this.

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BEBC
September 14, 2010 at 06:03 PM

Dunno. I've forgotten.

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simonpettersson
September 14, 2010 at 09:09 AM

Forget what?

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xiao_liang
September 14, 2010 at 07:14 AM

Damnit, now you reminded me again! I'm going to have to forget about them all over again! ;-)

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go_manly
September 10, 2010 at 03:18 AM

I thought you'd forgotten about them!

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lujiaojie
September 10, 2010 at 02:01 AM

tones of 七 and 八

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xiao_liang
September 09, 2010 at 08:42 AM

What change? :-)

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lujiaojie
September 09, 2010 at 01:24 AM

Just forget the change.

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xiao_liang
September 08, 2010 at 10:21 PM

So is it a regional variation perhaps?

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alexyu_yxj
August 19, 2010 at 02:36 AM

nor i.

as a chinese, i don't ever know there's such usage of "七" and "八"...

i never speak "七个" as "qi2 ge4".

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go_manly
August 18, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Only 一 and 不 change tone in this way. I'm guessing that you probably extended the rule for 一 to 七 and 八 yourself. You would not have learned this.

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go_manly
September 08, 2010 at 09:51 PM

No really?? I DID say 一 and 不 undergo these tone changes.

What surprises me is jiaojie's response below - I didn't realise that 七 or 八 can change tone.

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lisaammy
September 08, 2010 at 09:07 PM

no really! 一 has more complicated tone changes, as far as i know, e.g., 一起 pronounced yì qǐ.