Upper Intermediate - Focus and Specialisation - Poddies collaboration
John: This is an Upper Intermediate lesson on Chinesepod. I'm John.
Greg: Hey everybody, I'm Greg
John: So, today is another special lesson
Jenny: 我们金三角golden triangle
John: Alright. That's not actually the topic though
Jenny: 啊，不是不是我们今天其实还是要说的，啊，是有一个特别的节目也是自己分享一些【chao me】一些tips怎么样做一个中文真的很好的Upper Intermediate learner对不对
John: ....Whereas when you get to Upper Intermediate, that type of stuff isn't too difficult anymore, but you start to realise that you don't talk like a chinese person still
Greg: Holding yourself to a higher standard
John: Right, exactly
John: And like, at the Intermediate level like maybe you can do everyday communications with your, uh, co-workers in chinese
John: But for your specialised work you would probably still have to do it in english
John: Whereas at Upper Intermediate you're learning that specialised vocabulary to do your full job in chinese
John: Yeah, I think specialisation is really important at the Upper Intermediate level
Jenny: 嗯，然后Intermediate呢我觉得你在dating around就是你在explore很多...
Jenny: ...那你对是中国那方面比较感兴趣，你是想来中国工作或你已经在中国工作你想找中国女朋友你想【是自】做什么和中国有关的事情。Upper Intermediate你已经和中国结婚了
Jenny: 我觉得你会有一个life time的这种affair
Greg: A life time affair
Jenny: 那John你觉得一个人他如果住在外国有没有可能达到Upper Intermediate级别
John: I think it's possible, but it's definitely not easy, like you could read enough and listen enough and, you know, study on your own to get to that level comprehension-wise, but in order to speak at this level you really have to practice a lot.
John: Uh, and I think it definitely helps to live in a chinese speaking region of the world or somehow just to get lots of exposure in your own country
John: Yeah and what does it mean to be Upper Intermediate？
John: Well, you know, they're based on other levels that are out there
John: But, um, for Intermediate I think you've come to the level where you can, uh, express pretty much whatever you want to express in your daily life and, uh, you'll frequently come across words you don't know and you can learn them but, um, a lot of times a bit higher level discussion becomes difficult just because it's slightly more complex.....
Jenny: 嗯，在自己的国家你想【择】说就是【一个】有一些local college有一些大学他们会组织这种语言交换
John: hmm. I think for Intermediate maybe that can help get you there, but for Upper Intermediate you really have to have a lot of exposure. Greg, what do you think?
Greg: I, uh, I mean the occasional exposure like that in terms of language exchanges in the States is definitely not enough to really move past, you need to have a full-time, complete, uh, sort of chinese environment to immerse yourself in