Intermediate - Vying for the Meeting Room
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 04:42 AM posted in Transcripts with TalLesson URL: http://chinesepod.com/lessons/vying-for-the-meeting-room#comment-253716
25th March 2013
Right-Wingnut
March 27, 2013 at 08:32 AM
10:58
John: I know China's not the only place where that's a problem. But anyway, that's our lesson for today, and if you have questions you can come to ChinesePod.com and ask us.
Dilu: 或者是你有开会的故事或者是用会议室的experience，也可以让我们知道。
John: And if you're in a meeting right now listening to ChinesePod, don't get caught.
Dilu: 好。今天的课先到这里，我们下次再见。
John: 再见。
Right-Wingnut
March 27, 2013 at 08:27 AM
10:33
John: But I've heard that there are a lot of companies where the boss just wants to have a meeting to just talk about stuff, and they're the only one talking and everyone else is just listening, and they're just going on and on. Have you heard about a lot of people having this experience in China?
Dilu: 那一定有，一定有。要看那个公司的情况，可能在外企会好一些，但是可能在中国的一些公司里面。你听就会很长很长很长。
Right-Wingnut
March 27, 2013 at 08:19 AM
John: Is it normal?
Dilu: Not to me.
John: So you worked at a couple of different companies, and are they meeting crazy or what?
Dilu: 有一些公司，它们会有一些很好的会议室。那在会议室你可以用powerpoint，你可以用那个叫投影仪。
John: A projector.
Dilu: 对。所以这些会议室会比较抢手，大家开会都想去那边开会，或者是有一些培训，或者是面试新员工，都要用会议室。但是很多的小公司其实也无所谓。
Right-Wingnut
March 27, 2013 at 08:09 AM
9:28
John: So Dilu, I think a lot of companies outside of China have this meeting culture where sometimes people are in the 会议室 for a good part of the day. I know a guy who's from an American company, he's now working in 上海, he says that every Monday they're in the meeting room for eight hours, all day long.
Dilu: 是吗？每一个星期一［得］开八个小时的会。
John: 对。
Dilu: 他们要说什么？他的老板是中国人吗？
John: 应该是中国人。
Dilu: 真的？
waiguoren
March 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Dilu: 麻烦你，跟我说一声
John: OK， so 说一声， this 声 is like a voice, it's that character right?
Dilu: 对，是那个字但是说一声就是 ‘let me know'
John: Is that the same as 说以下？
Dilu: 这个是一样的， 说一声，说以下，都可以
John: Is that the same as 说说？
Dilu: 啊，不一样。说说就有点像是 talk about
John: 哦，but its just 'let me know，like quickly'
Dilu: 对
John: So its either 说一下 or..
Dilu/John: 说一声
Dilu/John: 对, OK
John: All-right, that's the end of the dialogue, so lets listen one more time
8:36
Right-Wingnut
March 27, 2013 at 07:58 AM
J(1): So 取消 -3rd, 1st ...
D(3): 他说 **的** 中间就是［从-agree］现在 **一直** 到五点，这个 **中间**
waiguoren
March 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM
John: So 3rd, 1st, that means 'cancel' right?
Dilu: 对
John: cancel their meeting
Dilu: 取消用这个会议室
John: OK, but he says 如果中间有人取消, this 中间 that means like in the middle?
Dilu: 恩，他说得中间就是［从］现在一只到五点，这个钟点
John: So its like in the middle of this block of time before 5pm
Dilu: 对
John: OK, so if someone cancels then...
Dilu: 也麻烦你，跟我说一声
waiguoren
March 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM
John: OK, so 暂时， 4th tone, 2nd tone, means temporarily, at the moment, for the time being
Dilu: 对，就是现在，到现在没有安排
John: 暂时 is that kind of formal?
Dilu: 恩，有一点小 formal
John: 哈，一点小 formal, just a little bit, OK...
Dilu: 所以这个人就说那五点要用会议室。如果中间有人取消， 也麻烦你跟我说一声
John: OK, 如果中间有人取消
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 07:49 AM
John: But then the guy suddenly remembers something else.
Dilu: 刚想起来。刚想起来。
John: 'I've just remembered'. So 想 can mean 'to think', but if you say 想起来 its 'I just thought of it', 'I just remembered'.
Dilu: 没错。刚想起来，三点到四点我可能还在外面。
John: So he'll be out, and then 5 to 6 ...
Dilu: 暂时还没有安排。暂时还没有安排。
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 07:42 AM
Dilu: 没错。三点到四点是一个空档。四点老板要会见客户。
John: So 'the boss needs to meet a client'. How did you say that?
Dilu: 会见。会见。两个第四声。其实就是＇见＇的意思。
John: So 见 means to meet someone, to see someone. 会见 is two 4th tones, Its a more formal way of saying meet with someone.
Dilu: 没错。更加正式一些。
John: And 'clients' again is ...
Dilu: 客户。客户。两个第四声。
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 07:27 AM
5:33
John: 要面, two 4th tones, and 员工 is 2nd and 1st.
Dilu: 对。面试，两个第四声。员工是第二声和第一声。
John: Now they do find an empty slot. When is it?
Dilu: 三点到四点有一个空档。
John: 空档, two 4th tones. This 空 is the same as 有空.
Dilu: 对。是一样的。空档。
John: So 空档 is an empty slot in a schedule.
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 07:21 AM
John: So 'what are the plans for the afternoon?', 'how has it been scheduled?'.
Dilu: 没错。
John: Could he have asked 有什么安排？
Dilu: 这样也可以。
John: OK.
Dilu: 一点半到三点销售部要面试新员工。
John: So 'the sales team have to interview new employees'.
Dilu: 对。销售部 - another department.
John: 销售 - that's 1st tone, 4th tone.
Dilu: 对。第一声和第四声。销售。销售部要面试新员工。要面试新员工。
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Dilu: 对
John: OK, and then the guy asks a question...
Dilu: 下午呢？怎么安排？，下午呢？ 怎么安排？
John: OK, now you might be tempted to think that he's asking 'how will you arrange the afternoon', 'how are you planning to arrange the afternoon meetings'
Dilu: 恩, 不是，不是
John: But it's actually...it's already decided right?
Dilu: 对，已经发生了。啊，其实这句话是 是怎么安排的，下午是怎么安排的
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM
John: OK, so the meeting room is really。。。
Dilu: 枪手，枪手。两个第三声
John: Two 3rd tones. This might look like a noun, but it's not a noun, it's an adjective
Dilu: 对，是一个形容词，就是很受欢迎
John: So it's something that's really in demand, everyone wants it
Dilu: 对
John: Then it's 枪手
Dilu: 对，会议室很枪手
John: So what other things are often 枪手？
Dilu: 在中国过年的时候火车票很枪手
John: 啊， OK, so around chinese new year it's hard to get train tickets, everyone wants 'em, they're really in demand, and they're also limited. So you can use 枪手 as an adjective
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 08:24 AM
Dilu: 不是，不是。她的意思是说等他们开完会议后，这个时间就到了吃午饭的时间了
John: OK, so I think that by the time they finish their meeting, it will be time for lunch. OK, so you can't get your meeting in before lunch
Dilu: 恩，而且你不可以［再会一时］吃饭
John/Dilu: 哈哈哈
John: OK, That's not allowed. All-right, and then what's the next thing?
Dilu: 这几天会议室好枪手，会议室好枪手
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 07:33 AM
John: So you can also say 我估计 right? I estimate...
Dilu: 对，我估计他不会来了
John: So I estimate he's not coming anymore or I'm guessing he's not coming anymore，that kind of thing
Dilu: 恩, 对，或者说我估计今天要加班
John: So, I'm thinking we're probably going to have to work overtime again today
Dilu: 对
John: OK, now let's look at the sentence again, ok, so one more time, what is the sentence?
Dilu: 等他门开完估计要吃午饭了
John: So once they're finished with their meeting, I estimate they're gonna eat lunch in the meeting room. Is that what they're saying?
toianw
March 26, 2013 at 07:50 AM
差不多definite - I'm rarely 100% sure about anything, but the pronuciation and meaning both fit.
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 06:56 AM
D(5): Not sure about 捷径, but I have no better option. What worries me is that Nciku says 捷径 is a noun, but the preceding 很 means it is clearly being used as an adjective here.
Anyone else with suggestions?
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 06:27 AM
Dilu: 估计要吃午饭了
John: So 估计， 1st tone, 4th tone, what does this mean?
Dilu: 这个词的翻译是 estimate
John: OK, it's a verb, it's kind of like English, 'I guess' or 'I reckon'
Dilu: 或者是 ‘I think'
John: Maybe you know, these kinds of meanings
Dilu: 对，很多人会用可能
John: Right, 可能, maybe
Dilu: 对，跟这个词很 [捷径] 如果你要用可能的时候， 啊，we encourage you to use this word instead, 估计
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 05:49 AM
John: All-right, this sentence is a little bit complicated, lets break it down
Dilu: 好
John: First of all, we start off with a verb, what is it?
Dilu: 等，等。第三声
John: OK, but this doesn't mean 'wait'. Um, you can think of it as like 'If we wait until they finish', but it's really more of like a 'once they finish'
Dilu: 对，等他们开完，等他们开完
John: So this means 开完会，like finish their meeting right?
Dilu: 对
John: OK, so once they've finished their meeting, then what?
Dilu: 估计要吃午饭了
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 05:23 AM
John: OK, so right in the beginning this guy foolishly thinks that he's just going to waltz into the meeting room, it's going to be free, but what's the situation?
Dilu: 技术部在开会，技术部在开会
John: So 技术部，3 4th tones，that's the tech department right?
Dilu: 对， 技术，两个第四声，就是 tech, 部就是我们说的［不通］的 department, 部门
John: OK, and he can't just really wait until they're finished right? What's the deal with that?
Dilu: 等他们开完估计要吃午饭了
Right-Wingnut
March 26, 2013 at 06:46 AM
D(1): 搏客 should be 播客
D(4): 不通 should be 不同
D(5): 以下 should be 一下
waiguoren
March 25, 2013 at 05:04 AM
Dilu: 你好，欢迎收听中文搏客， 我是 Dilu
John: Hey guys, I'm John, this is an intermediate lesson
Dilu: 恩，今天的课程我们会讲会议室，发生的事情
John: 会议室， so that's 3 4th tones, that's a meeting room
Dilu: 对， 三个第四声。会议室
John: All-right, so we're going to listen to a dialogue between a guy who wants to use the meeting room and a, the receptionist or whatever who's in charge of scheduling it
Dilu: 恩， 而且呢，还会听到［不通］的 department in a company
John: And there's some crazy competition for this meeting room. All-right, so lets listen in
Dilu: 好， 先听以下对话
0：36
Right-Wingnut
December 30, 2013 at 12:09 AMPDF of transcript here.